<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.comments</id><updated>2009-12-14T17:57:16.740-08:00</updated><category term='welfare vs. abolition'/><category term='vegan'/><category term='abolitionist veganism'/><category term='introduction'/><title type='text'>California Vegan</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/feeds/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/'/><link rel='hub' href='http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com/'/><author><name>Jay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08703162782722082966</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='24' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_R7izUeL67hQ/SrRkfNYeEpI/AAAAAAAAAAs/zCMxDdHaq0k/S220/ZgZiDHBVZSylDFM-201x148-cropped.jpg'/></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>15</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-2439684732913559322</id><published>2009-12-14T17:57:16.740-08:00</published><updated>2009-12-14T17:57:16.740-08:00</updated><title type='text'>I would like to say I have EVERYTHING against Foer...</title><content type='html'>I would like to say I have EVERYTHING against Foer and his book &amp;quot;Eating Animals.&amp;quot;   He is doing terrible, terrible things for the animals and is nothing but a fame and profit monger.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/2170853226255738522/comments/default/2439684732913559322'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/2170853226255738522/comments/default/2439684732913559322'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/12/answer-me-this-welfarism.html?showComment=1260842236740#c2439684732913559322' title=''/><author><name>Corey Wrenn</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/04099780959084371968</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='20' height='32' src='http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_W_EXe6AOeXU/Sf-Zr6ozYyI/AAAAAAAAADk/gweTbPRJV-M/S220/n6204801_39944315_9575.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/12/answer-me-this-welfarism.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-2170853226255738522' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/posts/default/2170853226255738522' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1756767693'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.displayTime' value='December 14, 2009 5:57 PM'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-3801072871038364149</id><published>2009-12-14T09:47:17.233-08:00</published><updated>2009-12-14T09:47:17.233-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Uh-oh! You said the magical phrase that will have ...</title><content type='html'>Uh-oh! You said the magical phrase that will have the Weston A. Price fanatics in here trying to hijack the conversation: &amp;quot;Where are we going to get all this land to raise happy, grass-fed, able-to-perform-natural-instincts animals?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Nice article though :)</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/2170853226255738522/comments/default/3801072871038364149'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/2170853226255738522/comments/default/3801072871038364149'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/12/answer-me-this-welfarism.html?showComment=1260812837233#c3801072871038364149' title=''/><author><name>Sat Garcia</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17121009152536898229</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img2.blogblog.com/img/b16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/12/answer-me-this-welfarism.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-2170853226255738522' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/posts/default/2170853226255738522' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-219104028'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.displayTime' value='December 14, 2009 9:47 AM'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-6493194647265742132</id><published>2009-12-14T08:44:23.544-08:00</published><updated>2009-12-14T08:44:23.544-08:00</updated><title type='text'>It&amp;#39;s astonishing the arguments Erik will make ...</title><content type='html'>It&amp;#39;s astonishing the arguments Erik will make to defend his buddy.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/2170853226255738522/comments/default/6493194647265742132'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/2170853226255738522/comments/default/6493194647265742132'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/12/answer-me-this-welfarism.html?showComment=1260809063544#c6493194647265742132' title=''/><author><name>Adam Kochanowicz</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13190729335643458295</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='25' height='32' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_DpLPdSQMHug/SsqufeXIH_I/AAAAAAAAD9M/yM62Z-9mDZE/S220/n63203497_1373.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/12/answer-me-this-welfarism.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-2170853226255738522' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/posts/default/2170853226255738522' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-56826809'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.displayTime' value='December 14, 2009 8:44 AM'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-5536349243681424994</id><published>2009-12-13T18:38:06.895-08:00</published><updated>2009-12-13T18:38:06.895-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Thank you for another blog post Jay!

One of my re...</title><content type='html'>Thank you for another blog post Jay!&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;One of my reasons for promoting Veganism is that no matter how laying hens are treated, all roosters are treated as &amp;quot;useless&amp;quot; and ground up alive as DAY OLD CHICKS, no different to my own lttle friends!</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/2170853226255738522/comments/default/5536349243681424994'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/2170853226255738522/comments/default/5536349243681424994'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/12/answer-me-this-welfarism.html?showComment=1260758286895#c5536349243681424994' title=''/><author><name>JayWontdart</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17594795233431726222</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='10882553583224406376'/><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_tkJeMAagjI0/ScirjjcIgAI/AAAAAAAAAAM/SB-oGZu4Dm8/S220/Dragonfly+for+profiles.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/12/answer-me-this-welfarism.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-2170853226255738522' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/posts/default/2170853226255738522' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-1207975782'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.displayTime' value='December 13, 2009 6:38 PM'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-5166977385006200548</id><published>2009-09-23T18:43:31.394-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-23T18:43:31.394-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Absolutely!  Why work for bigger cages when you co...</title><content type='html'>Absolutely!  Why work for bigger cages when you could work for empty ones? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks for a great post - :)</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/8938329819095968197/comments/default/5166977385006200548'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/8938329819095968197/comments/default/5166977385006200548'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/09/welfare-vs-abolition.html?showComment=1253756611394#c5166977385006200548' title=''/><author><name>Bea Elliott</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13981537551810309024</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='04860075793114519876'/><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='32' src='http://bp0.blogger.com/_bv90dt_VLys/SF-JCqaFSDI/AAAAAAAAAAM/Zz6WWluwFxI/S220/meeeeeee.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/09/welfare-vs-abolition.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-8938329819095968197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/posts/default/8938329819095968197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-89259797'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.displayTime' value='September 23, 2009 6:43 PM'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-9051670625439705354</id><published>2009-09-23T18:13:40.532-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-23T18:13:40.532-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Great post, Jay.  :)</title><content type='html'>Great post, Jay.  :)</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/8938329819095968197/comments/default/9051670625439705354'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/8938329819095968197/comments/default/9051670625439705354'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/09/welfare-vs-abolition.html?showComment=1253754820532#c9051670625439705354' title=''/><author><name>Oracl</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08141095758501020898</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='08354085081830033937'/><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_4frUCsDmY_M/SklZ0v43RYI/AAAAAAAAAAU/Ytca520q2aY/S220/Carol+24.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/09/welfare-vs-abolition.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-8938329819095968197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/posts/default/8938329819095968197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-866229985'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.displayTime' value='September 23, 2009 6:13 PM'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-3866168673559142475</id><published>2009-09-23T16:57:58.696-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-23T16:57:58.696-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Another Abolitionist!!! :-)

Brilliant and powerfu...</title><content type='html'>Another Abolitionist!!! :-)&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Brilliant and powerful post Jay! I agree with Amanda and hence I shared your post with my Facebook and Twitter friends. Moreover, I added your site to my blog site&amp;#39;s link list and suggest everyone else do the same.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/8938329819095968197/comments/default/3866168673559142475'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/8938329819095968197/comments/default/3866168673559142475'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/09/welfare-vs-abolition.html?showComment=1253750278696#c3866168673559142475' title=''/><author><name>randywsandberg</name><uri>http://randywsandberg.wordpress.com/</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='16' height='16' src='http://img1.blogblog.com/img/openid16-rounded.gif'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/09/welfare-vs-abolition.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-8938329819095968197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/posts/default/8938329819095968197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-2004658162'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.displayTime' value='September 23, 2009 4:57 PM'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-3262217758823935596</id><published>2009-09-23T03:56:40.909-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-23T03:56:40.909-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Great post Jay! Glad to have you on the abolition ...</title><content type='html'>Great post Jay! Glad to have you on the abolition band wagon! &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I was talking to a friend about welfarism recently and how welfarists say they want to help the animals that are currently suffering RIGHT NOW. &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;This is what she said: &amp;quot;Does that individual hen in a battery cage right now really benefit from a campaign to put her in a larger cage? By the time the regulations are put into place, she’ll be Campbell’s chicken noodle soup anyways.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Vegan education is the only way to END their suffering and death.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/8938329819095968197/comments/default/3262217758823935596'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/8938329819095968197/comments/default/3262217758823935596'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/09/welfare-vs-abolition.html?showComment=1253703400909#c3262217758823935596' title=''/><author><name>NCARA</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/05062261956977352699</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='31' height='21' src='http://2.bp.blogspot.com/__7Xet30cNxQ/SrKlTEPtRPI/AAAAAAAAAqk/BT7NlQ5SLXs/S220/lions+head+013.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/09/welfare-vs-abolition.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-8938329819095968197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/posts/default/8938329819095968197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-747313879'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.displayTime' value='September 23, 2009 3:56 AM'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-1327069663404565435</id><published>2009-09-22T17:55:58.130-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-22T17:55:58.130-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Hi Ken,

I am really glad to heard Francione when ...</title><content type='html'>Hi Ken,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I am really glad to heard Francione when I did. When I first started looking into the animal rights issue, I really disliked the thought of having to support groups like PETA. And boy, am I glad I don&amp;#39;t!</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/8938329819095968197/comments/default/1327069663404565435'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/8938329819095968197/comments/default/1327069663404565435'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/09/welfare-vs-abolition.html?showComment=1253667358130#c1327069663404565435' title=''/><author><name>Jay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08703162782722082966</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='24' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_R7izUeL67hQ/SrRkfNYeEpI/AAAAAAAAAAs/zCMxDdHaq0k/S220/ZgZiDHBVZSylDFM-201x148-cropped.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/09/welfare-vs-abolition.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-8938329819095968197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/posts/default/8938329819095968197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-754648105'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.displayTime' value='September 22, 2009 5:55 PM'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-3911556978573825601</id><published>2009-09-22T17:52:36.012-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-22T17:52:36.012-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Thank you, Amanda!</title><content type='html'>Thank you, Amanda!</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/8938329819095968197/comments/default/3911556978573825601'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/8938329819095968197/comments/default/3911556978573825601'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/09/welfare-vs-abolition.html?showComment=1253667156012#c3911556978573825601' title=''/><author><name>Jay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08703162782722082966</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='24' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_R7izUeL67hQ/SrRkfNYeEpI/AAAAAAAAAAs/zCMxDdHaq0k/S220/ZgZiDHBVZSylDFM-201x148-cropped.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/09/welfare-vs-abolition.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-8938329819095968197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/posts/default/8938329819095968197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-754648105'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.displayTime' value='September 22, 2009 5:52 PM'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-619267398789881266</id><published>2009-09-22T17:52:21.805-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-22T17:52:21.805-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Hi Eric,

Thanks for the comment! I listened to Pr...</title><content type='html'>Hi Eric,&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Thanks for the comment! I listened to Professor Francione&amp;#39;s podcast this morning, and it was like he was speaking to me! It was a great podcast; I always feel that more educated after listening to him.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/8938329819095968197/comments/default/619267398789881266'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/8938329819095968197/comments/default/619267398789881266'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/09/welfare-vs-abolition.html?showComment=1253667141805#c619267398789881266' title=''/><author><name>Jay</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/08703162782722082966</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='33' height='24' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_R7izUeL67hQ/SrRkfNYeEpI/AAAAAAAAAAs/zCMxDdHaq0k/S220/ZgZiDHBVZSylDFM-201x148-cropped.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/09/welfare-vs-abolition.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-8938329819095968197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/posts/default/8938329819095968197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-754648105'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.displayTime' value='September 22, 2009 5:52 PM'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-1148183852667238860</id><published>2009-09-22T13:47:36.102-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-22T13:47:36.102-07:00</updated><title type='text'>I discovered abolitionism a couple years back much...</title><content type='html'>I discovered abolitionism a couple years back much the same way that you did.  A link to Vegan Freaks on a social justice blog led me to one of their interviews with Gary Francione.  Francione&amp;#39;s clear approach made sense to me.  Reading his site made me understand the source of underlying confussion I sometimes felt while working on animal welfare campaigns.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/8938329819095968197/comments/default/1148183852667238860'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/8938329819095968197/comments/default/1148183852667238860'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/09/welfare-vs-abolition.html?showComment=1253652456102#c1148183852667238860' title=''/><author><name>Ken Hopes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/09232401774744224298</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='02051936515982905158'/><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='32' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_02dZa9ygm2g/Sm6cSc6bnDI/AAAAAAAAANU/TRyUbpQMqaE/S220/kh.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/09/welfare-vs-abolition.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-8938329819095968197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/posts/default/8938329819095968197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-370018382'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.displayTime' value='September 22, 2009 1:47 PM'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-1189967674168292507</id><published>2009-09-22T07:55:43.050-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-22T07:55:43.050-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Hi, Jay.

Great for you! Just remember that welfar...</title><content type='html'>Hi, Jay.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Great for you! Just remember that welfare campaigns don&amp;#39;t necessarily reduce suffering. Even if it can be said with certainty that one has done so, you&amp;#39;ll find that very little was accomplished that wouldn&amp;#39;t have happened without activist intervention anyway (check out Francione&amp;#39;s latest commentary at abolitionistapproach.com regarding this aspect), and these so-called &amp;quot;gains&amp;quot; come at a great cost. Our resources are better spent reducing the demand for animal use by spreading veganism and growing an abolitionist movement.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Keep it up!</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/8938329819095968197/comments/default/1189967674168292507'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/8938329819095968197/comments/default/1189967674168292507'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/09/welfare-vs-abolition.html?showComment=1253631343050#c1189967674168292507' title=''/><author><name>Eric</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13982914222299822601</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://www.ericprescott.com/pics/headshot.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/09/welfare-vs-abolition.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-8938329819095968197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/posts/default/8938329819095968197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-228286880'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.displayTime' value='September 22, 2009 7:55 AM'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-3166061772151001652</id><published>2009-09-22T07:54:41.723-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-22T07:54:41.723-07:00</updated><title type='text'></title><content type='html'>This comment has been removed by the author.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/8938329819095968197/comments/default/3166061772151001652'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/8938329819095968197/comments/default/3166061772151001652'/><author><name>Eric</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13982914222299822601</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='21' height='32' src='http://www.ericprescott.com/pics/headshot.jpg'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/09/welfare-vs-abolition.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-8938329819095968197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/posts/default/8938329819095968197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.contentRemoved' value='true'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-228286880'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.displayTime' value='September 22, 2009 7:54 AM'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-1901064860883705164</id><published>2009-09-22T07:28:41.222-07:00</published><updated>2009-09-22T07:28:41.222-07:00</updated><title type='text'>i wish everyone would read this!  i&amp;#39;m really l...</title><content type='html'>i wish everyone would read this!  i&amp;#39;m really looking forward to more posts!</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/8938329819095968197/comments/default/1901064860883705164'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/8938329819095968197/comments/default/1901064860883705164'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/09/welfare-vs-abolition.html?showComment=1253629721222#c1901064860883705164' title=''/><author><name>Amanda Rock</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06328701190524780626</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:image xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail' width='32' height='24' src='http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_Ez1UQQdVIoI/SrRQkJMK_DI/AAAAAAAAAV0/L4XGClXKS-g/S220/IMG_0179.JPG'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://californianvegan.blogspot.com/2009/09/welfare-vs-abolition.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8363805595015272370.post-8938329819095968197' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/8363805595015272370/posts/default/8938329819095968197' type='text/html'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.itemClass' value='pid-92610741'/><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='blogger.displayTime' value='September 22, 2009 7:28 AM'/></entry></feed>
